sounding as an insider, but people at the house, i'm telling you, mitt romney was dealt deprecating bob newhart and he blew away without self-deprecating and funny he was. hysterical. i said to my wife after that event, why don't we see this -- it has to be out there. but what would you tell them? i said, you better be funny. people like a guy who has a sense of humor. he had a lot of things he could pick him. neil: you never heard that mitt romney. >> he didn't do it when he was on the stump. you know, when these guys, they get disillusioned. they always think they're going to win. they are preaching to the crowd. they get out they re, 25,000 people screaming. and he walks out of here before he is. he thinks he's going to win. meanwhile, obama -- you know, the undecided people, they were screaming and calling his name. they get disillusioned. you get this euphoria state. but ifou make fun of yourself, and you make fun of the other guy and good taste, you have a good chance to win. neil: i think you're right. i think you have to recognize the inherent joke we all are. neil: >> he could'